In the comments of the last entry you may have seen the idiot in the title applying his or her disgusting level of claimed logic. The idiot just didn’t understand that everything that was claimed by them was wrong. Not logical, and just plain rubbish. Let’s just highlight the so called logic;
1. “Injections by pass the body’s natural filters whereas consumption doesn’t”. There is NO difference between injection and consumption when it comes to the body’s barriers. Anything that is not needed will find it’s way through the body’s ejection system. In order for the body to absorb what it needs it has to be able to deal with both, and it does when working correctly. That is a fact, and it is also logical.
2. “Anti vaxxers own observations are reliable as they look into it themselves and see all the other stories”. Not good enough! There is no medical verification in this process and nor should their be! Medical verification is ESSENTIAL in these claims and as long as it’s not there it’s not true. Speculation is not scientific especially when it comes from people who are thinking with their hearts or guts and not their heads!
3. “Vaccines are not the only way to prevent disease”. If that was true we wouldn’t need vaccines. But we do, because they are the only way to ELIMINATE disease. Clean water provides the improved base, but all that did was cut back in fatalities. It did nothing to dispose of the disease altogether. Vaccines WORK! And they are the ONLY procedure that performs this task successfully.
Basically this idiot is believing the BS. Their logic is skewed badly as a result. And whoever this is can now be identified as a blatant liar. They stated that they had created a Twitter account as a result of the comments in the previous entry. I looked, and the account was created in September 2016! Con artist!
And, no, this person is not being added to the AV Name Check. This one needs their real name on it, not this stupid user name they are using. Now if they aren’t a con artist or liar, they’ll provide it. But I know they won’t. Just making this clear as glass – “Blagen Login” is an illogical, lying con artist who doesn’t understand vaccines, science or anything related to it. Proof? Greenmedinfo.com is a quack site, and would you believe this idiot believes the earth is flat??
IDIOT! Take a flight from your home town and go due west – don’t stop. After flying for 40,075 kilometres you will be able to land at your starting point. You couldn’t do that if the Earth was flat!!
There is obvious damage Kerra Lindsey is doing on her Real Organic Truth page. She has a bunch of followers that have to be described as cult followers and she (with the help of her husband Rudy I’m sure) is leading a charge of lies and fabrications that she thinks is the whole answer – and can’t stand my review of her page. Today I decided that every time she commented (or anyone else for that matter – unless the comment was in support of me) I would delete the review and put it back as a fresh review. As of this blog entry I have done this 10 times, and it is clearly frustrating her – and I am delighted this is the case because she deserves every bit of her incitement of child neglect!
We’ll start on February 19 at 1:23am (Australian time);
👀👁👀👁👀Look at the confirmation this #stalker keeps circling our page. 😮😂😂😂 Why does it leave so much evidence of its criminal activity stalking a mom? #monster #cdcwhistleblower #truth can’t be silenced by #bought, fake #autistics. #vaccines are poison & this creatures temper tantrums change nothing. #macesmom shares health truth to #savethebabies. 😄👍🏼💥 #realorganictruth
Viewing a public page is not stalking. Reviewing it is not stalking either. If you don’t want me looking at it – delete it. Simples. You don’t tell the truth and you never have. I am Autistic and have the formal diagnosis to prove it (the original as Asperger’s Syndrome which is the same thing and three confirmations – there’s a fourth somewhere but I can’t locate it). Vaccines are not poison, and the person that’s chucking the temper tantrum is Lindsey. She is a liar and doesn’t save any babies.
When I deleted my review and consequently that comment, and re-added it she was onto it instantly on February 19 at 5:59pm (Oz time);
There is something wrong with you. 😘❤️I’m sorry for that. We feel sorry for you. You are stalking us and others are documenting you doing it. 😄👍🏼💥Thank you for being so transparent to make it so obvious. 👫👭👭👫=❤️😄 Cheers to #truth to #savethebabies! #vaccines are poison.
There’s nothing wrong with me. There’s something seriously wrong with you, Lindsey, and THAT is incredibly transparent. I already addressed the rest previously.
I deleted the review again and put it back as before, and on February 21 smack bang on midnight (Oz time);
This is his 4th review of our page. 😳😂😂😂👍🏼 Thanks, Phil! We know you ❤️ #macesmom & #teamtruth! #Vaccines are poison & alter your DNA. Don’t be duped into pHARMa filth!
That was what caused me to edit my review and add the ludicrous claim that vaccines alter your DNA! That’s impossible! I won’t be duped by ORGANIC filth, if we are going to go that way! I decided to leave this review up and nothing else happened, until yesterday when a liar named Marcie Ellyn came along with this at 4:35am (Oz time);
And did you receive your Vitamin K at birth and all your vaccines? HOW do you really know you were “born” with it? Is that what doctors TOLD your mother? Do you not find it odd that hundreds of thousands of parents saw their babies change within minutes or HOURS of shots? You know what they say- Vaccines are the world’s LEADING cause of COINCIDENCES!! The inserts would NOT last an adverse reaction unless they KNOW it happens- why would they put it in there otherwise? It’s not like they can be sued… THINK
You can’t think! Vitamin K wasn’t about when I was born, but I got all my vaccines at the time. I know I was born with it, because it is genetic at the base. There are NO parents that saw their babies change within minutes or hours of the vaccine – because none of it has been medically verified. It wasn’t even a coincidence. If anything there was a sensory overload and that can ONLY happen to an Autistic! And that overload can come from literally ANYWHERE! The insert list is a legal statement and not a medical statement, and no they DON’T know it happens. The legal statement is speculative and should be removed, and yes they CAN be sued. Just don’t mention any claim to vaccine injury. Concentrate on the vaccine itself.
She also said just five minutes later;
If you do not believe that DNA can be altered, you should really look up mutagenesis and also be well aware that NO vaccines are tested for it. CANCER is completely and totally CAUSED by genetic damage (DNA MUTATION). How do you inject people with KNOWN TOXINS AND POISONS and then try to pretend that vaccines do not poison people?? I know it must be hard to accept that our government is just fine poisoning is, especially considering you have Autism, but even the CDC scientists have admitted they LIED when they said “Vaccines do not cause Autism”. They most certainly cause brain inflammation-as they are DESIGNED to do- which yes, CAUSES Autism. How sad you can’t see…
I can see very well thank you, and right through your web of lies! Vaccines have been tested for EVERYTHING in Australia (I can’t speak for the US) and mutagenesis is a part of human evolution so it is not a factor in anything – unless it goes wrong and that’s where the cancer threat lies, and even then there are ways to prevent many versions of it! As for that crack about the ingredients, if you want to go that way – EVERYTHING contains known toxins and poisons! Even FRESH (as opposed to tap) WATER! Not to mention Lindsey’s organic line of food! Autism is a brain DIFFERENCE, not an inflammation of any kind whatsoever – and vaccines are NOT designed to cause brain inflammation, otherwise it would be happening to EVERY recipient of a vaccine of ALL ages! Enough clear vision for you?
We then had another fake name drop in – Trisha Dinwiddie – who simply observed that I was a paid troll. Nope. No payments from anyone to do what I am doing. Lindsey tried to back it up by taking note of the thanks I have got from Jill Hennessy (which doesn’t prove anything) and while she was about that she also responded to Ellyn’s rubbish calling it “thought provoking”.
That all caused me to delete the review and put it back yet again, and last night at 11:41pm here comes Lindsey again;
This thing came back for the FIFTH time to rate us. 😳😂😂😂👍🏼💥Thanks, Phil who is paid to harass others for profit! #liarliarpantsonfire How sad you are. I feel bad for you as your life lacks substance. 😘♥️
How sad are you reacting like this, little girl? What a temper tantrum yet again! The insults are lame and inaccurate and you are too stupid to see it.
We then had Iris Figueroa pop in at 3:02am this morning with this garbage laden comment;
Phil, we can only feel pity for your ignorance and rage. Trying so hard to censor the truth will not negate the truth. If you really want to make a noble difference in a child’s life, be open to learning and understanding instead. We don’t worship at the vaccine altar. We didn’t just wake up one day and say, “Today I’m going to oppose vaccinations.” We and/or our children are damaged, maimed, and some lost their lives to vaccines. Living organisms are not born vaccine nor drug deficient. Never were, and never will be. Humans draw our health from natural immunity and nature’s bounty. So that in addition to being open to understanding the truth, also learn to cook for your health. It is your right to choose to drink fluoride, ingest tons of glyphosate, inject yourself and your children with mercury, aluminum and formaldehyde, and finally drug yourselves up with pharmaceuticals. Sounds like a plan with purpose. Just as it is our freedom to know better and share it with others to help them avoid tragedy. Our plan with purpose. Because the alternative is deliberately designed to ENSLAVE you as a customer for life. htt ps://childhealthsafety.word press.com/2015/06/01/scientific-review-paper-how-vaccines-have-been-causing-cancers-paralysis-and-death-for-decades/
I am censoring nothing. I am telling the truth, and you are too stupid to see it. You are the threat to the child’s life and are not open to real learning and understanding. You are not a victim of vaccines. You have no proof of your claims. Vaccines are needed to supplement a vulnerable young body’s protective barriers that are not equipped to cope with the likes of influenza, whooping cough, measles, mumps etc etc. Diseased children were dying from these diseases before vaccines (and clean water) and still are thanks to idiots like you even though the rate is lower. But we want it at ZERO! You don’t. You don’t care about children. They should be growing up healthy and happy. You want them diseased and running the risk of death from that disease. Medicine is a balanced practice, and you are unbalancing it and placing lives at risk with your ill informed rhetoric. There is no mercury in vaccines (ethyl mercury is not mercury, and methyl mercury – which is more toxic than ethyl mercury – is found naturally in fish), aluminium is not dangerous otherwise they would ban aluminium cans, and formaldehyde is found in pears. Drugs should only be taken on medical advice. It’s a plan with a purpose – it’s called SAVING LIVES! And you aren’t interested in that and that makes you the slave – to death. The link is an unreliable source (and I broke it up to prevent an auto linking).
That caused another deletion and reboot of the review and by this time I was making it clear that this was the original review re-booted. And Lindsey couldn’t help herself at 8:26am this morning (Oz time);
This is beautiful. Posted a rating on us 5 times, comes to OUR page stalking us calling us names? Hmm–seems odd, right? Why is this man stalking this already injured family? Their child almost died after vaccines and this us well documented. Why the denial? 3.6 Billion paid out to families of vaccine injured like #gomace’s and those who did not survive the poisoning. Outright abuse & bullying of vaccine injured us not okay. This is the ONLY allowed public bullying. Let’s think about that. #macesmom
It is not medically documented though. Why? Because it didn’t happen. Vaccine Court payouts are biased because they don’t fulfill the criteria of proof. If a proper court heard the evidence there would be nowhere near as much paid out, if anything at all! She and her cronies are the bullies and I’m just fighting back in kind with the truth. And this will continue as the real truth is on my side.
This one popped up while I had my email opened and now I was jumping straight away to delete and reboot, and I even added the note to the bottom of my review stating this, and that I would continue to do this until the page was deleted. On this reboot, Lindsey shot back with this comment at 9:09am;
It just keeps going on and on. Look at it. #stalker #truth #vAxxed
And it will keep going on until you delete your page! Figueroa came back with this at 9:42am this morning (Oz time);
He deleted my reply to him – Something about bodily autonomy and human freedoms not up for sale in a Constitutional Republic. Government and industry do not own us sorta logic. It must’ve resonated for him as common sens and legally correct. Him being a paralegal and all.
She also added the link again and I left it out this time. No it resonated as a blatant lie as I already proved. Bodily autonomy comes with a responsibility to do the right thing by it. If you refuse to do the right thing and that threatens the health of the community, you forfeit said autonomy for the good of the community. They deserve freedoms as well and you are denying them the freedom to live free from disease. That is the legal facts of the matter!
The email notifying me of Lindsey’s comment was delayed, but I deleted the review again and rebooted it and that caused a rant by Figueroa at 9:55am (Oz time)
Philip, you can never squash the truth, no matter how fascist you want to be about it. We have scientists who’ve done the unbiased research. “The greatest lie ever told is that vaccines prevent disease, when in fact they cause many diseases such as autism.” htt p://www.organiclifestyle magazine.com/scientists-against-vaccines-hear-from-those-who-have-done-the-research You don’t play politics with a child’s life. IF you care and research the whole story, once you learn, you just can’t unlearn. Unavoidably unsafe remains unavoidably unsafe, as per the ruling of the Supreme Court of the United States. htt ps://www.supreme court.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-152.pdf Forced medical procedures are in direct violation of our human freedoms (as parents, as people). As per the Nuremburg Code, the AMA code of ethics and our Constitution. Our bodies are not government property. Where there is risk, there is choice. htt p://www.rense .com/general87/nurem.htm How about The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986? This historic law acknowledged that vaccine injuries and deaths are real and that the vaccine injured and their families should be financially supported and that vaccine safety protections were needed in the mass vaccination system. EXCEPT that the industry is not held liable for the damages; citizen taxes are burdened with this responsibility. Therefore, no industry incentive to conduct any due diligence or ethics. htt p://www.nvic .org/injury-compensation/origihanlaw.aspx Then we look at our nation’s health statistics. The USA has the highest infant mortality rate (in the first 24 hours of life) among first world nations and gives the highest number of vaccines within the first year of life. Countries which give fewest vaccines have the lowest infant mortality rate. The insane notion that more vaccines save more lives is not supported by simple statistics. htt ps://www.ncbi.nlm. nih.gov/m/pubmed/21543527/#fft htt p://www.thevaccine reaction.org/2016/05/why-is-the-u-s-infant-mortality-rate-so-high/ You cannot hide vaccine injuries. Even the law acknowledges them. And you’re a paralegal?!
I broke up all the links for the same reasons as before.
1. There are no genuine scientists who have done research and drawn conclusions against vaccines. There are only quacks and under-qualified scientists. That first link is not reliable.
2. You are the one playing politics with a child’s life – in fact a whole bunch of children’s lives outside your own! That is neglect and is a criminal act.
3. The Supreme Court made no such ruling. I’ve read the decision and it only mentions unavoidably unsafe in the preamble (AKA syllabus as those numb nuts in the US call it). The decision made no such conclusion as it was about the ability to by pass the Vaccine Court and it rejected the proposal.
4. There is risk in EVERYTHING is life so a choice must be made. And it must be the right choice for the community, not just you. See point 2. Vaccines are safe under that choice.
5. No it only accepts the probability they exist. Nothing has been proven to the proper level required by the laws of evidence – laws that the Vaccine Court does not abide by.
6. NVIC is an unreliable source. Enough said about that.
7. You can’t read that NIH link and that last one is another unreliable source. The highest infant mortality rate is in Africa.
You are hiding vaccine injuries because you refuse to get these claims checked out. Until you do – they don’t exist. There is no positive proof of any issue that has been caused solely by a vaccine. Not one. That is legal FACT!
I deleted the review and rebooted yet again, and Figueroa promptly came back at 10:08am with more rubbish;
Dude, you’re bordering schizophrenia. Quit while you can. 😉 The Lancet: Editor In Chief Of World’s Best Known Medical Journal: Half Of All The Literature Is False. His quote: “The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness.” htt p://www.the lancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736%2815%2960696-1.pdf Editors in chief of three of the four leading medical journals in the world have spoken and written publicly about the unreliability of medical science and the way it is more of a social phenomenon than a scientific one. Medical science has long been skewed by the profit motive. htt ps://papers.ssrn .com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2282014#%23 Peer-review process. “So we have little evidence on the effectiveness of peer review, but we have considerable evidence on its defects. In addition to being poor at detecting gross defects and almost useless for detecting fraud it is slow, expensive, profligate of academic time, highly subjective, something of a lottery, prone to bias, and easily abused.” htt ps://www.ncbi.nlm.n ih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1420798/ The education for hire. “Scores of examples of scientific and social scientific research essential to public welfare are undermined by private influence. In fact, more than 52 per cent of funding for clinical medical research is now from corporate sources. The trend is easiest to spot and most publicly alarming in the medical sciences, since lives are at stake. But there is cause for concern as well in the humanities and social sciences, where publication of inconvenient truths can be discouraged by university higher-ups”. htt p://www.academic matters.ca/2010/04/higher-education-or-education-for-hire-corporatization-and-the-threat-to-democratic-thinking/ The politics. Pharma interference in legislative matters to insure profits. Caught red-handed. https://www.ncbi.nlm.ni h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3483914/ Pharma, the mainstream media and its marketing revenue, bulk from the pharmaceutical industry. No, no influence there. htt ps://www.drug watch.com/featured/big-pharma-marketing/ The CDC. In a letter to the CDC Chief of Staff from CDC scientists – lies and corruption within the organization. The members of the group have elected to file the complaint anonymously for fear of retribution. htt ps://usr tk.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/CDC_SPIDER_Letter-1.pdf This tells us that the MDs, RNs, NIH, CDC, FDA, HHS, NCI, IOM, ACIP, AAFP, AAP, and the ACOG are pharma “captured agencies”. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Seriously, YOU claim to be a U.S. PARALEGAL, but you don’t research your own religion?!
I broke up the links again and first off, the Lancet quote was talking about the pseudo science that was bouncing around. It’s the same with the others and they refuse to stop it because they think it will just go away on their word. They have to start suing these liars, and I wish they would. There is no profit motive for vaccines (that lies with the pills especially all the varieties of aspirin and other pain killers that are found on supermarket shelves). The pseudo science element is out of control – that’s the education for hire, not real science. There are no inconvenient truths. There are inconvenient LIES promoted as truth by pseudo science and dummies like this lot are believing it in numbers that are getting too big to ignore. No influence over mainstream media, because they employ smart people who know the difference between science and pseudo science. They are required to present the truth or they can get into trouble. The CDC is all over the claims and even asked the people for contributions to the investigation – and that was last October! How many of you have presented the full medical records of your children for this investigation? None of you.
And I am not American. I am Australian.
Another deletion and reboot and Figueroa couldn’t help herself at 10:14am;
Open, honest debate is the only way to restore public confidence. Censorship will not work. You’re only providing us with more evidence of fraud.
Censorship does work when lives are at stake. Lies will be deleted, and you are telling them to the detriment of the health of the community especially the children. That’s why the time for debate is past. It’s time to punish the liars and that means the anti vaxxers.
Yet another deletion and reboot and Lindsey simply hash tagged stalker and police. I deleted and rebooted another time and Figueroa was back again at 10:46am;
Censorship will not work. Fraudulent misconduct, Philip, that’s what you’re providing us with. Vax ingredients. How do carcinogens and neurotoxins and animal DNA injected into you build your immune system? htt ps://www.cdc. gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf
Broke up the link again – there are no carcinogens, neurotoxins or animal DNA in vaccines! It’s a COMPOUND! Calling it something other than a compound is what’s fraudulent! Lindsey O’Connell got involved with this in reply to Figueroa;
Those paid to mock, harass & vilify parents of vaccine injured should be ashamed of themselves.
Those who claim vaccine injury without verifiable proof are the ones who should be ashamed of themselves! Figueroa replied thus;
Lindsey – I agree. Any doctor, nurse, doctor’s assistant, nurse assistant, pharmacy, clinic, ANYBODY that administers or promotes vaccines to anyone, should be charged with ATTEMPTED MURDER/HOMICIDE.
Try it! Report it as such! I dare you! I DOUBLE dare you! You know why you won’t? Because you know you’ll be chucked down the front steps! Figueroa then added the same comment as an original and added;
Another deletion and reboot resulted and Lindsey put a screen shot of Figueroa’s comment about censorship. Figueroa added this at 11:08am;
Philip, you know the law, correct? What’s the skinny on cyberstalking? Adversonics. Iatrogenic. Vaccine-induced injury.
She also re added the previous link. The skinny on cyberstalking is that when one is looking a reviewing a public page, that is not cyberstalking.
I’d had it. I completed this entry and it’s now live. I have added the link to the review (which I lost somehow so I had to do a brand new one) and I have told them if they want to talk to me they have to do it here. Oh, and Figueroa?
Here is the link to the review in it’s latest form;
Last night I blocked Paul Crehan because I’d had enough and had more important things to do. But he tried to bait me into unblocking him on Twitter with another series of tweets. Not working because I’m replying here instead. Four of them were memes that he had already used before and that I’d already bunked in the last entry about him. But here are more.
4. Herd immunity – or lack of it – is the reason for this piece that he’s quoted.
5. SV40 was removed in 1963. The matter has been dealt with.
6. That’s another Hooker claim off his deliberate misrepresentation of William Thompson.
7. Bigtree is another lying con artist who is a buddy of proven quack Andrew Wakefield.
8. This is now right out of date and can be shown to be effectively wrong or at best misleading.
9. This is an old book that is now downright dangerous a la Stephanie’s Marvellous Measles.
10. See what I just said, AND if any health department found out about this before the fact they would stop it and that would be legal as well.
11. This is a classic example of not knowing the difference between pure mercury (the first example) and ethyl mercury (the second example). There is a massive difference! Not only that, the 50,000 PPB (parts per billion) is wrong. That equals 5 parts per 100,000. There is 12.5 micrograms of ethyl mercury in SOME flu shots. That’s 12.5 parts per million assuming that the whole vaccine is a gram! It’s SAFE!
12. Natural Blaze is an unreliable source. I wonder what the decision really said and was really all about…..
I do know that Crehan lives in Melbourne and appears to be in the south eastern suburbs. That information comes from Stat Counter through his clicking on the link to the other entry about him. And he uses Optus. Want any more, Crehan? Time to shut your mouth before it gets forced shut!
If there was any doubt about it, despite her partial back down Pauline Hanson has done damage. She gave the self proclaimed “Truth Warriors” dutch courage, and when (in a rare act of common sense) Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull called on the rest of the Australian states and territories to follow the lead of Victoria, New South Wales and Queensland on the No Play component of the No Jab penalty scheme, they went off on social media. Reasonable Hank has an entry all about that here;
But that’s not what this entry is about at the core. It’s about the reaction to a share I did on the AAAV Facebook page, linking to a garbage article from the AVsN’s alternate page No Compulsory Vaccinations where the claim was made that doctors who were seen as bullies trying to force vaccines on people not willing to follow correct procedure signing Statutory Declarations to this effect. No doctor would do that (sign such a stat dec I mean) and I made the point that coercion is perfectly fine in certain circumstances – and I used the analogy of stopping a person from wanting to steal as an example, and added that as far as I was concerned those who refused to vaccinate their kids were criminals. And they are. I stand by that and the fact that they should be prosecuted. Doctors know that vaccines are safe when used correctly and are not obeying the Hippocratic Oath if they refuse to vaccinate anyone when warranted. NOT vaccinating when it’s needed and possible is doing harm, contrary to these idiots who truly believe the opposite is true – and won’t prove it with anything substantive (I refer readers back to a previous entry about proving their claims for the full details of that).
The share came from Keith Kelley, who will be added to the AV Name Check on the next update. He commented and was duly banned from the page by my fellow admin JD. She was online when Shawn Dhu – who is already on the AV Name Check – commented and burned it instantly. Next instant she gets a notification that the link was shared, and Dhu said “Calling all truth warriors” – causing JD to add a comment to the original entry that any warrior comments would be burned on sight. That – with the exception of one person – worked as 99 percent of the comments appeared on Dhu’s share instead and amazingly JD and later LB and FT were able to comment on the share under the AAAV page name. I was later able to comment myself although I had to use my political account as the share didn’t show on my personal account as I have Dhu blocked there (as a reminder I have four FB accounts all in my name and two of them administer AAAV alongside three co-admins). Here’s how the whole thing went as of uploading this blog entry;
FT has seen Vaxxed. I haven’t, and I wouldn’t want to judging by this reliable review;
Dhu at best has been conned into thinking it’s true. That says plenty about him. Wakefield, Hooker and Tommey are all guilty of con-artistry. As far as Kelley’s comment goes – it was directed at FT but I’ll answer it anyway – they are putting it over as true. It doesn’t mean that it is true! Con artistry like I said! Who gains the most? Those three get attention, much of it negative so it’s not a gain actually (unless you believe in the fallacy that any publicity is good publicity). Who loses the most? Children who are affected by disease, and children and adults who are Autistic – including me – the latter because it undermines the real identity of Autism and lies about it’s origins. There are NO reliable court cases on the subject – the Vaccine Court doesn’t count because of it’s poor evidence threshold. The Germ Theory of disease has NEVER been disproven. The fear mongerers are the anti vaxxers who don’t understand and don’t want to understand.
First off, the medical fraudsters are these idiots. Aside from that, I’ll obviously concentrate on the material after FT’s last comment, firstly by again speaking for him and saying to Luke Bennett that those figures show just how dangerous not vaccinating is! It is NOT the vaccine causing it! I’m willing to bet there will be a drop in 2016 due to No Jab No Pay. Notice that the highest numbers coincide with the AVsN’s height of publicity from 2009 to 2012. The cases in the vaccinated population are caused by the lack of herd immunity so there is no reason to hide it and it hasn’t been. The focus is on the unvaccinated because they are the danger. You, Bennett, fail at real research because you don’t understand the subject matter like all anti vaxxers.
Shaun McDonald’s contempt for disease is the catch cry of an uncaring monster. I had the measles as well when I was a kid, and it stunk! I wouldn’t want any child to go through that and yet you do! It’s not a guarantee of death, but you are more likely to die from measles, mumps or chicken pox than you are from a vaccine! WAY more likely! As for Lyn Fattorini, it has been known for the tetanus vaccine to fail and it does require boosters as well. But it’s more likely that the child you mentioned was protected at least partly from the worst of tetanus by the vaccine for it – much like the flu vaccine can work despite it mutating. (Note that the above screenshot is in fact several combined including a time jump)
Can’t add to this obviously, except to specify that Seneff is a computer expert.
Bennett already provided this graph above and it’s already been addressed. I fail to see how Evie Sunday could possibly call LB’s comment making no sense! It made perfect sense! What – didn’t you want to think about it all, Sunday? Does the truth really scare you that much? (There’s another time jump here)
Trevor Robert is another one that has been fooled by the con artists now believing that everything that has been said in the past about vaccines is false. It’s not. You and Dhu need to go back to it because right now you are threatening children’s lives and that is not BS. It is demonstrable fact and real world fact to boot. You two live in a fake world full of paranoid lies and as FT rightly said it will come crashing down – certainly if I have anything to do with it! I don’t think it will come out of nowhere necessarily, and I wouldn’t mind knowing what FT meant by that. Oh, and I never went to Uni and even if I did for the regular four years after getting an HSC (which I didn’t get either for the record) I would have been out at the end of 1986! You do the maths!
FT was right. The TGA have done the tests and I am indeed working to have them released publicly. I hope to have news on that in fact by the end of this month. Once they are out Trevor Robert will have to eat his words. FT was also right about these idiots being paid – Joseph Mercola heads up the money pit of Big Alterna. There is no vaccine damage (again – see my Prove it entry) and the flu vaccine in particular works! I know! I’ve had it the last two years and I will continue to get it! Jackie Cole then confessed to being a doctor but a check on her timeline shows that she isn’t a doctor of medicine! She’s at best a dermatologist!! (Another time jump in this one)
As you can see here, Dhu didn’t want the truth on his timeline anymore. Spelman, we have shown the science and you lot have rejected it and presented pseudo science. That is just the way it is. There is no slander when I call you an inciter of child neglect, and no slander in whatever anyone else calls you. Krystal had liked the AAAV page and FT informed me that he booted her. As for Coulthard (who like Dhu is already on the AV Name Check) the hostility from me lies in the fact that you lot are lying about the origins of Autism. I take that very personally as I have said numerous times before. This is also about children’s rights, in particular the right to live free of preventable disease. You are denying them that right, and if you persist you deserve to have your rights removed in the most basic way – a jail term for child neglect/abuse.
I did ask for screenshots to be supplied but in fact I was able to collect them myself through my football account (had I used the political account the full names of JD, LB and FT would have shown up, and I am not going to allow them to be subjected to the level of harassment that innocent Peter Tiernan copped and they agree). I will close with this.
Debbie Hibbert, Lyn Fattorini, Luke Bennett, Shaun McDonald, Christina Natasia, Evie Sunday, Jackie Cole, Keith Spelman and Krystal Castle – guess what?
UPDATE MARCH 20 (1)
Two more comments to reference that appeared overnight;
No one on the right side of the fence is taking any bribes, and if anyone blackmailed me they’d be getting the cops on their doorstep! No matter what the reason! I am yet to see any proof that the Prime Minister owns any shares, and Lucy has no such restrictions. Prove that she’s in it for the reasons you claim! You don’t have a vaccine injured child. Oh you say you do? Prove it! And we all have brains. You aren’t using them. I am and so are those who support vaccines because unlike you we listen to those who actually understand them!
If anyone is putting children’s lives at risk it’s you lot – and you don’t care. That’s the very epitome of a threat to the community and that is therefore a matter of PUBLIC interest! That’s the core reason for the AV Name Check; Public Interest! And you deserve to lose your rights – that is the rights that you lose when you are thrown into a jail cell for child abuse/neglect! Or inciting it as I already said.
Kay Christiansen will also be added to the list on the next update.
UPDATE MARCH 20 (2)
No one is an appropriate specialist?? Excuse me?? You bet they exist! What do you think the qualifications are for those who create vaccines? They are specialists! Vaccine safety is already as high as it can be, and any claims to the contrary is a threat to said safety! Nothing is happening in Virginia this week – that ended in January, dummy! You are the one who looks like a clown, because the research HAS been done! You just don’t want to believe it! You won’t be laughing when the worst case scenario hits – mandatory vaccinations! THAT is what you are going to cause if you don’t stop with these lies! It will actually be better if you and your ilk are thrown in jail for child neglect/abuse or inciting same. Vaccines are 100 percent safe when used correctly, and SIDS has nothing whatsoever to do with it. Rates are already dropping and yet the number of vaccines is UP over the same period!
I can say this here – Evie Sunday, you are a stupid bitch!!
Speaking of which……
Researched and still vaccinating because I actually understand the issue in full, thanks to being educated by people who actually know and understand the issue and remembering what I learned in high school science about compounds! And did that woman snort? What a PIG!
Wendy Tremain will also be added to the AV Name Check on the next update.
UPDATE MARCH 21
And now we have an idiot named Adam Gray;
Sorry, idiot, but you will have to do it – if you don’t want to end up in prison AND lose your kids! It’s called neglect! Your choice – vaccinate or cop it.
Gray’s first comment is total rubbish, and his claim re a plant based diet has NO nutritional value to a growing child! Kids need all the food groups and that includes meat and dairy! Parents are incapable of taking their children’s health into their own hands 100 percent because they are not medically qualified! You have no rights when you place children in danger, idiot! And it’s you lot who are the looneys because you are wanting to go back to the times when childhood mortality was as high as a kite! Don’t deny it! You know it’s true deep down and you’re too scared to admit it!
Funny how anti vaxxers are suddenly engaging in cowards tactics. This one responded to a tweet on my political account about how parents who don’t have a good proven medical reason not the vaccinate deserve everything they get. And I stand by that. But this idiot decided to respond and then mute we with the following rubbish!
A. Notice that he doesn’t provide a link for this claim – because it’s NOT true! So that’s not a good reason.
B. This is about Gardisil again – the vaccines ARE tested! Again there is no proof of the claim, and a health department can certainly take action if a mandated vaccine is refused because the health of the community is at stake! The list is a legal statement and not a medical statement, so that’s not a good reason either.
C. What you neglected to mention, buster, is that the pharmaceutical companies FUND THE VACCINE COURT!! It’s THEIR MONEY that is handed out upon a successful claim! So again – that’s not a good reason!
D. Rubbish. There have been deaths as recently as 2015 from the measles, and the CDC has noted that since 2000 (when they declared the measles eradicated) that there have been ten other deaths since that have the measles on the death certificate! That’s strong proof! NO vaccine only caused death has been proven. None! So again – not a good reason!
E. This is a common misquote by the anti vaxxers. Bill is talking about two separate things between the figures. The first part he is talking about world population. The second part is about lowering prevalence and mortality rates! BIG difference! That comment has been taken out of context, and is therefore (again) not a good reason!
F. I have to break this one up obviously;
1. With full and correct information (and deletion of wrong information) consent will be achieved, so no problem.
2. They do, so no problem.
3. They do, so no problem.
4. Vaccinating does that. Refusing the vaccinate does not.
5. Vaccines are not an experiment so this is not applicable.
6. That is being done.
7. They already exist.
8. That is also being done.
9. Of course and they do – remember, vaccines in the community is NOT an experiment.
10. Again, as before, vaccines are NOT an experiment.
So yet again – not a good reason!
I’ve been unable to find out anything about this guy. A web search turns up what are obviously other people. He appears to be Australian and is certainly a nut case. He’s been tweeting to The Age and Sky News Australia and spouting other junk that would take too long to go through. But when I do get that info, he’s going on the list! The AV Name Check that is – because he is inciting child neglect!
When ALP leader Bill Shorten sent a letter to Australian Prime Minister asking for his support in a public education campaign, I was sceptical – and I posted on Bill’s Facebook page that I appreciated the effort, but it wasn’t going to work as the anti vaxxers were no longer listening.
In a surprising act of common sense – given his attitude towards other matters that I won’t detail on this blog – Malcolm Turnbull has now announced that he has written to the governments of South Australia, Western Australia, Tasmania, the Northern Territory and the Australian Capital Territory calling for them to join Victoria, New South Wales and Queensland in banning access to child care centres and pre schools for children who aren’t up to date with vaccines. No Jab No Play is well known in Victoria, and in fact I didn’t know until today that New South Wales and Queensland had similar laws. Making this restriction nationwide is a positive move.
Of course, anti vaxxers are melting down and I’m going to busy updating the AV Name Check again after finally getting around to updating it today – it hadn’t been touched since just before Christmas. There are a large number of idiots on the Fans of the AVsN Facebook page going off! Here are the worst of them;
* Politicians claim that there can be no vaccine industry corruption because vaccines reduce the profits of big Pharma by improving health. This argument has a flip side, presenting an incentive for big Pharma to make vaccines that either do not work or create as much or more Health problems as they solve.
* Psychopath much? I’m lost for words, how he openly discriminates and gets away with it amazes me. How do our unimmunised kids pose a risk to everyone if the rest are vaccinated? Is he not admitting that it’s bullshit ineffective?
* Mr Turnbull,I may agree with many policies but not this one . I had,measles,chicken pox,mumps when young all over and done with by 5 and never had a problem. My Daughter had MMR vaccine she is Aspergers due to the mercury in the vaccine or the mixture of the three.Parents should beable to choose.
* And who is going to financially support the families who will no longer be able to work in paid employment due to their children being excluded from care?
* Dictatorship [on two separate occasions]
* Becoming like Hitlers Germany, full dictatorship on its way to your Aussie homes very soon .
* The uptake of vaccines must’ve dropped that dramatically that our government has to coerce parents to use an “unavoidably unsafe” product – not for the Health & Wellbeing of the child but for profit for Big Pharma.
* Vaccinated kids can be carriers of diseases and a threat to non vacc kids.
* He is in bed with the pharmaceutical companies. They control him. The more vaccinated people who have brain fog the more control they have. More disease more obedience
* Parents affected must challenge Turnbull’s ruling in the courts as a ‘class action’ ! How can a government take away a parent’s rights to care for their child as best they may, without interference from the government. Forced vaccinations? Forced sterilizations? Forced….god knows what. Gas chambers??
* The longer you keep them out of the system the better they will be
Two other rubbish claims permeated the whole thread. One – how can an unvaccinated child affect vaccinated children? Herd immunity is compromised, that’s how!! Two – the claim that Lucy Turnbull owns shares in Glaxo Smith Kline creating a conflict of interest. I go back to what I said at the beginning – this was caused by the ALP letter! Nothing to do with any pecuniary interests, which don’t exist anyway!!
Reality check; All the above comments are BS. Total BS. You lot are in the wrong and you are paying the price for it. If you want access to these places, vaccinate your kids! It doesn’t cost anything! And no anti vax parent can possibly be qualified to educate their own children – because teaching conspiracy BS will have them on the outer of society in nothing flat. I’ve said it before over and over again;
Vaccines are safe when used correctly. Vaccines are not unavoidably unsafe. Vaccines do not cause Autism. There are no proven vaccine injured children.
Now shut up all of you and do your community duty and vaccinate! Or it’s going to get worse and it’s no one’s fault but your own for being the child neglectors you are!
Edit (April 9 & 10) – Red Pill’s posts have been deleted. The states are applying the No Jab No Play laws, not Canberra. So Section 51 of the Constitution doesn’t apply, and neither does Section 109 as Canberra does not have a specific No Jab No Play law in it’s books so there is no inconsistency. No Jab No Pay is a separate law and works in concert. Remember that no lawyer was prepared to assist the AVsN in taking the latter to the High Court because they knew there was no chance of it getting accepted. Lucy Turnbull’s activities are irrelevant.
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