Clobbering the AVrN’s Fed Court standing

I was intending to post this before today’s interlocutory hearing, but I figured I would adjust to the notes from the hearing (allowed under the orders of the Court that her Honour Justice Perry mentioned).

First off – the vaccines are not experimental. The trials were concluded at the end of 2020 prior to the TGA’s provisional approval. Secondly, VAERS in the US is not reliable as anyone can put in reports and have not been confirmed. So that number of 4 thousand deaths in the US can not be relied upon as accurate. Vaccines are not mandated as a whole, and a choice remains (this was established in Kassam and Henry v Hazzard) – even in state orders. Such orders are legal under section 48 of the Disability Discrimination Act. I have said that many times and I’m not the only one who has said it either. Indeed, Justice Beech-Jones referred to it in the aforementioned decision even if it didn’t go to the heart of the matter before that court.

Second, the pressing of the AVrN’s interests as valid without considering their standing within that is ridiculous. An attempt was made to push the claim that the AVrN had a positive effect on legislation – but there was no proof of it. Of course there wasn’t – because they didn’t. Bob Brown’s Amendments to legislation back in 1997 would have been proposed anyway, and they have since been removed in 2015 despite the AVrN’s objection. This refers to the conscientious objection clause. The special interest factor must carry valid backing and it has none. The backing claimed is controversial which I go to further down this blog entry.

Third – I go back to the state orders, specifically in South Australia with the joinder applicant. Again, section 48 of the DDA applies and so does section 19 of the Work Health and Safety Act which goes to the employer’s primary duty of care to protect the health and safety of their employees. If a person isn’t vaccinated they present a threat to the health and safety of other employees. The idiot also apparently went to the ingredients in his objection to his dismissal – a basic error made by an anti vaxxer.

Fourth – the claim that the AVrN and the joinder applicant will be badly affected by a negative result is a lie. The AVrN will go on regardless and the joinder applicant will continue his life.

The written submission that the AVrN published on their website (the base of my original intent to post here) mentions the respondent’s objection using the word “busybody”. I agree with this word being used, and there is a very good example of it. Meryl Dorey’s treatment of the McAffrey family. As we know the McAffrey’s daughter died from whooping cough, and Dorey demanded access to the death certificate trying to prove that this was not the cause of death. She has denied it, but proof of this effort and other related efforts at the time to pressure the McAffreys exists in email records. That is just one example that is on the public record – thanks in part to Jane Hansen. I hate Sky News, but they did the right thing in transmitting Jane’s documentary promoted here;
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/sky-news-presents-big-shots-antivaxxers-exposed/video/8de43cc1f34c41d772b298deffe169d7

One part of it that says plenty about Dorey’s attitude – a highly relevant question asked by Jane; “Do you believe in COVID?”. Dorey replies “Do you believe in Santa Claus?” That comment says a great deal about her core position on the prevailing situation. She doesn’t believe COVID-19 even exists. It does and we all know it.

The submission includes authorities to back their claims of standing and it’s clear – the matters referred to there carry none of the controversy surrounding the AVrN. The AVrN promote themselves as authorities on vaccines when they are not. The proof lies in the reason why I got involved in fighting this moronic lot to begin with – their claim that vaccines cause Autism;
https://avn.org.au/information/vaccine-injury/autism-and-vaccines/

I have made it clear over and over again my extreme offence to that and how that I consider it hate speech. That factor is hopefully in hand. This is aside from clear issues with the authorities in general that Her Honour Justice Perry identified. The barrister representing the respondent made a great point that the applicant must have something to lose to have sufficient interest, or conversely something to gain. Neither apply to the AVrN because they are busybodies. Likewise the fact that the TGA provisionally approved all the vaccines but had no say (in effect) in whether or not they would be used – either by the federal government through the roll out provisions, or the states through the provision of the vaccines themselves to the people. Also – in a really important note – no government (state or federal) recognises the AVrN in any way as an authority. In fact the New South Wales government through it’s Department of Fair Trading have gone in the opposite direction making them change their name from the original. And there was a great precedent to add to it, involving the equally controversial Right To Life group who were ruled as not having standing in an abortion matter – specifically an abortion pill for which similar circumstances applied.

The final reason the AVrN doesn’t have standing goes to their use of the Vaxxed Bus (which incidentally is being replaced after the original was wrecked by the recent floods in Northern New South Wales). It records stories of vaccination injury (in general – not just COVID). These stories should in fact be told to the TGA directly or to the health authorities in the relevant state. This goes directly to the allegation that the AVrN are busybodies. They are interfering. They are in effect hiding information from the health authorities that may be useful with a full investigation. I touched on this in the blog entry here Once and for all, prove it. I have long held that while it is fact that vaccines do not cause Autism, they could in certain circumstances play a role in sensory overloads – a very big threat to Autistic children. For example – some vaccines have a restriction of not being administered to any child running a temperature. Most do not have this restriction, but what if for an Autistic some more vaccines may be in this category and not for neurotypical children? We don’t know because these people are not presenting their children for a full evaluation. Indeed – over the Summer of 2016 and 2017 I spoke to the then head of immunisation in Victoria, Steve Pellisier. He told me that he had referred no less than eleven parents to either the Royal Children’s Hospital, or the children’s section of the Monash Medical Centre for said full evaluation – free of charge. And not one of the parents took up the offer.

The bottom line is that the AVrN do not have standing. Their character is poor. They are purveyors of misinformation. They rely on information that is falsified and inaccurate. Ultimately in the absence of proof of their claims, they are liars. They are afraid to pursue real proof because they know deep down they can’t prove anything and are afraid that alternative causes will arise and destroy their main purpose. Their purpose is not to inform about vaccines as they claim. Their purpose is to destroy the base of vaccines and in the process put children and adults in danger from preventable disease. An organisation like that can not and should never have standing to lodge claims in any Court let alone the Federal Court.

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